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Monday

The Dunes Golf & Beach Club- Myrtle Beach, SC

This is a classic Robert Trent Jones designed golf course, opened in 1949. It is also one of the oldest golf courses in Myrtle Beach. This course shows what Jones could do when given good sites, though it is not up to the level of Peachtree, which opened one year prior. The Dunes lacks the width and overall strategic value that Peachtree has, but features variety, walkability, and flow that many of his later courses lack. Overall, this course is quite nice and deserving of the Top 100 ranking it once had.

Ranking
Variety of Design: The par 3's have modest variety. The longest is 245 yards, which is certainly among the longest a golfer will ever see. However, the shortest is 185 yards, with two in the middle playing 205 and 200 yards. Add in the normal summer wind from the south and the variety decreases even more with both of the 200 yard hole playing the same direction and the 185 yard hole playing exactly opposite. Par 4's have solid variety, ranging from 465 to 365 yards, though the lengths are concentrated more at the upper end around 425 yards. The par 5's have solid variety as well, from the reachable in two 4th hole to the solid 3 shot 13th. Directionally, the course has 3 holes playing left, 2 holes playing right, and 13 holes playing straight, however, only once do two holes play in the same direction back to back, so the wind will come into play differently on every hole. 7 3/4 out of 10

Flow of the Course: Very good. The course starts off gently, before the par 5 4th hole provides a high point early. The front nine continues steadily from there before the back nine starts off with the finest 4 hole stretch of RTJ holes that I have seen. The course then ends with fantastic holes on 16 and 18, with a good par 3 17th sandwiched in between. 7 1/2 out of 10

Course Conditioning: Good. This course was played during the late fall season, after the course had been seeded with rye grass. However, the fairways were still solidly grassed and the course played nicely firm. The bent grass greens were quite nice and ran very true. 7 1/4 out of 10

Ease of Walking: Very good. Most holes have very short transitions to the next tee and the course is not very hilly. 6 1/2 out of 10

Atmosphere: Solid, but nothing special. The course gets a bit of a boost due to being a private club that allows outside play and because it is one of the oldest courses in Myrtle Beach. 4 1/4 out of 10

Total: 71 out of 100

Holes to Note
Hole #1: Par 4, 425 yards
This solid opening hole has a fairway bunker guarding the right side of the fairway. However, the bunker only guards the hole when the hole is cut on the left side of the green. When the hole is cut right, the preferred play is down the left. This is a fair opening hole and with two quality shots, the player should have a reasonable chance to make birdie to start the round.
 From the tee, the fairway bunker is visible as are the greenside bunkers.
 From the right side of the fairway, the flanking bunkers are visible short of the green. This side provides the best angle of approach to holes cut on the left side of the green.

Hole #4: Par 5, 505 yards
This is a fantastic hole with strategic options on all shots. From the tee, the player must decide if he wants to challenge the bunkers and try to go for the green in two shots. If the player desires to lay short of them, a shot of not more than 240 yards is needed. Shots between 240 and 265 yards can be played into the narrow fairway to the right of the bunkers. A player who wants to play over the bunkers will need to hit a shot that carries at least 275 yards. Players who play short of the bunker will certainly be laying up but those who played to the side, might try to go at the green, needing a shot of 240-250 yards to make the center of the green. Players who carried the bunkers are looking at 190-210 yards to the center of the green. This hole provides a great chance to make a birdie early on to the player who plays within his limitations.
 From the tee, the options are clear to the player who is able to see them.
 This is the view from over the bunkers in the fairway, roughly 200 yards from the green. The water short of the green will make even the best player think about going for the green in two.
Hole #9: Par 3, 200 yards
This par 3 surrounded by bunkers provides the player the only view of the ocean on the golf course. Almost a shame, really, that this course wasn't able to be played down in the dunes. The hole itself is a quality end to the front nine, mandating the player hit a quality shot with a helping wind.
 There will certainly be no roll-up shots played here.
 Looking right from the green, the Atlantic Ocean is visible beyond the club.

Hole #10: par 4, 380 yards
This mid-short par 4 starts off the back nine. The hole plays straight off the tee towards a water hazard that cuts the fairway short. The fairway also narrows significantly at around 260 yards from the tee, bottlenecking down then widening out prior to the hazard. The hole then plays significantly uphill to the green. The way the hole is laid out, flat from the tee, fairway the runs out, large, undulated and well defended green, reminds me of the second hole at Pine Valley in New Jersey. This hole is a great starter for the back nine.
 The pond up close in this image is only 75 yards from the tee. The bunkers in the distance are protecting the green. The best play is towards the pair of bunkers in the center of the image.
 From roughly 135 yards from the green, the pond fronting the green is visible, as is the pinch in the fairway. The player must add roughly one club given the uphill nature of the hole.

Hole #11: Par 4, 430 yards
A very solid dogleg right that plays with water down the entire right side. The fairway bunker can be reached from the tee and is there to keep the player from bailing out far left. To the green, the player must be mindful that the green is virtually on a peninsula and that any shot not struck well will likely find the water.
 From the tee, the best line is slightly right of the bunker, but the player has to guard against fading the ball too much off that line, otherwise he will find himself in the water.
 From 200 yards out, the green provides a very small target and the water is especially in play.
 This view, from around 140 yards, shows how exposed the green is.

Hole #12: Par 3, 245 yards
Long par 3, all carry over the water. This hole is very solid and incredibly difficult. A score of 3 here will draw no complaints from any golfer.

Hole #13: Par 5, 590 yards
This is a very difficult par 5 with water coming into play on the tee shot and second shot. From the tee, the player needs to be mindful that any shot to the right will find the water and that the fairway narrows down significantly for players who are capable of hitting tee shots over 300 yards. On the second shot, the hole is basically a Cape hole, giving the player the chance to play as far out to the right as he desires in effort to cut down the length of approach shot to the green.
 The fairway is visible from the tee. Any shot right of the cluster of trees on the right will certainly find the water.
 From the fairway, the player can go as far right as he desires. From here, a shot played directly over the hazard stake will need to carry 180 yards to find the fairway on the other side. Ultra aggressive players who choose to go over directly towards the left greenside bunker will need to carry the ball around 230 yards to find the fairway.
Hole #16: Par 4, 365 yards
The shortest par 4 on the course is also one of the better ones. A fairway bunker 235 yards off the tee pinches down the fairway to only 15 yards wide. Beyond the bunker, the fairway dips down into a fairly deep depression before rising back up to the green. The green is heavily bunkered, being surrounded by 7 bunkers and the greensite strongly resembles the 7th at Augusta National, a course that Mr. Jones renovated just three years prior to the opening of The Dunes. This hole provides a great opportunity for birdie late in the round for the player who knows his limitations.
 From the tee, the bunker is visible in the distance on the right side of the fairway. The safe play is to lay back short of it, possibly 225 yards off the tee.
 From just beyond the bunker, you can see how the hole dips down prior to rising back up to the fantastic green complex. There will certainly be no rolling the ball up onto this green.
Hole #18: Par 4, 430 yards
This is a great closing hole. It is one of the few real dogleg holes on the course and one that will be played into the summer prevailing wind. The player should try to get his tee shot into the left side of the fairway so that he can have a shorter approach shot. From the fairway, the player will need to play a shot to a green surrounded by bunkers with a fronting water hazard. The player must retain his concentration until the final shot here.
 The spot where the trees begin to get shorter in the distance, just left of the center of the image, is the perfect aiming spot from the tee with the right to left summer wind.
The scenic green can be clearly seen here, around 125 yards from the green. This is no easy approach shot with a middle or long iron in your hands. 

Overall, this is a very good course. It has quality in the routing and design features that are sadly lacking from many of Mr. Jones's later courses. It would likely not take much work for this course to find the American Top 100 yet again. 6 out of 10, and a strong 6 at that.

Friday

Peachtree Golf Club- Holes 10-18

Front Nine review HERE

Holes #10: Par 5, 519/503 yards
This is the only hole on the course that has a feature which can be considered somewhat unfair for lesser golfers but not in play for the better player, i.e. a bad feature. But that will be looked at in a moment. This hole is a generally straightforward par 5. As with many holes here at Peachtree, hole location will determine which side of the fairway is correct. In normal fashion, if the hole is cut front right, the left side of the fairway is preferred. From here the hole differs from the previous holes. Center hole locations are best approached from the right side of the fairway. The right side will yield a straight shot to the center of the green. However, holes cut in the far left portion of the green are very difficult to access with an aerial shot. For this hole location, either side of the fairway can be used, but the left side of the fairway will require the player hit a severe draw to the center of the green and let the fall roll down to the hole; the right side of the fairway will let the player hit a normal draw to the center of the green and, again, let it funnel back to the hole.

The above options are based on the golfer being able to go to the green in two shots and having to avoid the large bunker short of the green and the greenside bunker. The player laying up had better be able to pick a preferred yardage for the approach shot because the bottom of the flag will be obscured from the player and on left side locations, the entire flagstick may be out of view. The shot to the green will likely play two clubs uphill.

 From the tee, the bottom of the fairway is blind to the player. The creek visible in the above aerial is not in play from the tee. The fairway is basically flat and the player will be able to aim down the correct side and not have to worry about the ball rolling into the rough.

From the left side of the fairway, the opening to the right side of the green can be seen. The difficulty in accessing a left hole location can be seen here; were the hole cut far left, the flat would actually be to the left of the clean-up stripe on the fairway.

The semi-unfair feature mentioned in the beginning is the creek that cuts through the fairway. This creek provides no hazard at all for better players. But for average players hitting 225 yards or so off the tee, the creek is a significant hazard in trying to get across. Perhaps this is how Mr. Jones intended the hole to be played in 1948, have distance off the tee determine if the player can carry the creek or not and have a short shot to the green. Either way, in the modern game, this feature provides a potentially large penalty to the average player and virtually no penalty to the better player. This is the only feature this writer would change on the course.

Hole #11: Par 3, 220/180 yards
This is a very simple, though long, par 3. There is the slight chance to roll the ball onto the green, but the slope in front of the green makes that difficult. Overall, on this hole, the player will simply be asked to pick a yardage, pick a target, and hit a shot. This is a good rest hole prior to the difficult stretch upcoming.

Playing through a valley, the roll-up option is there, though is would likely be a difficult shot to pull off in normal conditions.

Hole #12: Par 4, 486/431 yards
This is the longest par 4 on the course and may well be the best. This sharp dogleg must be played different ways depending on how long the player can hit his tee shot. The back tee is located at the single purple spot at the very bottom of the picture below. A 275 yard tee shot will wind up at the double purple dots; a 300 yard drive will end up at the two orange spots. As you can see, if the 275 yard player hits his shot up the right side of the fairway, his approach will be blocked out by the trees. This player must play to the center or left side of the fairway, leaving another 225+ yards to the center of the green. The 300 yard player can hit his tee shot down the far right of the fairway, cutting down to perhaps 175 yards to the green. However, both of these shots will play one club longer due to the approach being substantially uphill. On top of all this, the setting of the green is exceptional.

 This shot taken from the 431 yard tee shows the blind tee shot down to the fairway. The downhill nature of the hole will help the player, but not greatly. If from the back tees, the 300 yard player could play directly down the right treeline, the 275 yard player will need to play directly over the tee boxes or slightly left of that.
Playing uphill to the green, the opening to the green is open enough to accept running shots, but the bunkers are there to provide penalty for shots hit off line. Players will need to take one extra club to get to the green.

Hole #13: Par 4, 470/385 yards
This is a solid and difficult par 4. Length off the tee is always a determining factor in how to play a given hole, but here it is key. Longer players, those that hit the ball out to 290 yards or more off the tee can play to any given point in the fairway and have a simple shot to the green with a middle iron. For these players, the bunkers in front of the green merely force them to guard against being short. Moderate length players, those hitting over 260 or so off the tee, have a different approach shot given that they will be playing from over 200 yards. These players should play up the left side so that they may use the kick-slope on the left side of the green in order to funnel the ball to the hole using ground contours. 

From the middle tee, the plays are simple. Down the treeline will leave the player with a shorter shot, up the left will give the best line if one is trying to use the kick-slope.
From the fairway, the kick-slope is visible on the left side of the green.

Hole #14: Par 3, 183/166 yards
There is little to be said about this hole that can not be seen in the pictures. Hit the green, or very close to is, or you will likely be in the water or playing a bunker shot towards the water. Certainly this hole fits the bill for a Heroic Shot.


Hole #15: Par 4, 470/411 yards
This hole starts off a fantastic closing stretch. As seen before out here, hole location determines which side of the fairway is preferred. Left hole locations are best approached from the right side; right hole locations are best approached from the left side. The creek visible in the image below is possibly in reach from the tee for the longest players due to the significant slope downhill towards the creek.

The left to right slope of the fairway can be seen here. Hugging the treeline is necessary for those players wanting to hit in the left side of the fairway.

The cluster of players on the green marks the hole location here. The line from the left side of the fairway is clear, avoiding the bunkers. From the right side, the player would be forced to play over the greenside bunker.

Hole #15: Par 5, 577/510 yards
This is a solid par 5 that might be reachable for the longest players, but it right at the range that will have all the better players scratching their heads. The player must have in mind off the tee if he intends to go for the green in two shots. If so, the better play is up the right side of the fairway. If not, the play is the left side of the fairway. The left side of the fairway opens up the second fairway, across the creek, more to the player. The right side will give the player going for the green in two, or trying to get very close, a better angle around the two fronting bunkers.

This fairway slopes right to left off the same hill that slopes the 15th hole. Shots played to the right side of the fairway should be started near the treeline in order to stay on the right side.

From the left side of the fairway, roughly 240 yards from the green, the second fairway can be seen along with the small pond. The large bunker short of the green makes going for the green from this side of the fairway problematic.

This is the view from the right-center of the fairway, perhaps 175 yards from the green. This is roughly the angle that would be seen from 250+ yards out. From this angle, the bunkers can be more easily navigated, but the pond and secondary fairway angle would make the lay-up shot more difficult.

Hole #17: Par 4, 420/391 yards
For one of the few times in the round, the best line of play off the tee is dictated to the player. The green angles away from the player left to right and has bunkers in front, making the preferred side of the fairway the left side. The left side will give the player a longer part of the green to work with and can also yield a run-up option for the player.

The fairway lays out nicely in front of the player. A play right towards the overhanging limbs of the pine tree will be perfect.

From the left side, the bunkers can be avoided and, although uphill, the player can attempt to roll the ball onto the putting surface if he wishes.

Hole #18: Par 4, 420/394 yards
The final hole of the day is one of only three holes with a fairway bunker. However, unlike the bunkers on #1 and #9, the usefulness of this one is not clear. The left side of the fairway does not seem to yield a better line of approach to the green over the right side. As it stands now, the final hole comes in as a hole where the entire protection for the hole is at the green. The green has a huge fall off short and will cause balls to roll back 10-20 yards off the green. This is a great hole to close out the round, giving the player a great chance to close with birdie if he can hit two solid shots.

From the tee, the bunker sits there staring at the player. Typically, that means the preferred angle is near there, but in this situation, that does not appear to be the case.

From over the bunker, this approach awaits the player. The bottom of the flagstick is not visible to the player making the shot more difficult.

The front roll-off area is visible here.

Overall, this course is very, very good. The shot making requirements from start to finish are high but not to high as to keep the course from being fun for the average golfer. It might be noted by the reader that there was little mention of the greens. As a rule, the greens had great features, but not the kind that come out well in photographs. The features were small and sweeping with the majority of the green being sloped as opposed to modern greens where the slopes are huge and bold and the rest of the green is virtually flat. These are some of the finest greens this writer has seen. That coupled with the shot requirements and flow in the round yields a fantastic golf course. 8 out of 10

Royal New Kent Golf Club-Providence Forge, VA


This is a high quality golf course as evidenced by it being Mike Strantz's only original course to break into the Golf Digest Top 100 in America; Monterey Peninsula (Shore) is Top 100, but that course is something of a hybrid renovation/new construction. This course has everything a person would expect to see at a Strantz designed course. Wild greens. Heroic shots. Views and expanses of golf that are difficult to describe in words. It really is a shame this course fell out of the Top 100 after only one ranking because it exemplifies everything that Strantz did as a designer.

Ranking
Variety of Design: Very good. The par three's lack variety slightly, not having a short hole. Par four's have great range, from 333 (playing effectively shorter than that) to 476 yards. The par five's feature one that is reachable for the aggressive player and three more that are all at the very outer reaches of making the green in two shots and will make the player think. Directionally, the course features seven holes going to the right, five holes going left, and six holes going straight. The course also features holes that allow running shots, along with uphill and downhill approaches.
8 1/4 out of 10

Flow of the Course: The course starts off with the traditional Strantz kick in the mouth. Following that, the course ebbs and flows nicely through the round, giving the player opportunities to be aggressive and attempt to gain a stroke or two, to take a breather, and also has holes where the player had best hunker down and hit a couple excellent shots. The eighteenth takes shots in some circles, but truthfully, most would not know the pond is manufactured unless they were told so. The hole provides a very good finish with multiple options. 8 out of 10

Course Conditioning: The conditioning was certainly on pace with the rest of the courses in the local area. Certainly it was not on the level of high end places like Eagle Point, but was generally solid. 7 1/4 out out of 10

Walkability: Not good. The course is on a less than perfect site and there is a housing component to the design. For all his positives, Mike Strantz was not the best at routing courses that could be easily walked. The good thing is that most of the longer walks are over flat ground and not directly up hills. 4 out of 10

Atmosphere: Good atmosphere here. Being one of only a handful of Strantz courses adds to the anticipation and the course does not disappoint. 4 out of 10

Total: 71.25

(all photos taken taken by and used with permission from The Buffalo Golfer: www.buffalogolfer.com)
Holes to Note
Hole #2: Par 5, 557 yards
The fishhook hole. This hole is essentially a Strantz template hole. This type hole exists on four of Strantz's seven East Coast courses, six if the basic principle and not style plus principle are included. It is called a fishhook because the hole is shaped as such. The hole plays out a certain distance and then cuts back 180 degrees before coming to the green. In all cases, the hole has some hazard in the middle. The hole here doglegs sharply to the right. The aggressive play from the tee is down the right side of the fairway, that will give the player the chance to go for the green with a mid to long iron. Players not going to the green in two will most likely still have to play over the hazard, unless they wish to play the hole as an effective par 6, but the landing area for lay-up shots is huge. There have likely been scores ranging from 2 to 20 on this hole over the years.
From the tee, the dividing line between fairway and rough is visible. What is not visible, however, is the grass hazard waiting just beyond the trees. Players hugging the right side of the fairway will have the shortest line to the green, obviously.
This player hit his tee shot about ten yards inside the right edge of the fairway. The green is reachable from here, but the hazard will do the player no favors.
A closer look at the hazard clearly shows a abyss awaiting the player should he come up short.
This is the shot that awaits the player who played conservatively on the second shot.

Hole #7: Par 3, 197 yards
This is certainly the best par 3 on the course and may be one of the top three or four in Southeastern Virginia. Strantz is known for his modern style of golf course, but if one looks closely features from the classic designers can be seen. The Alps concept from the Charles B. Macdonald School is a Strantz favorite. He has also used the Biarritz green template at least twice. This hole has what strongly resembles the biarritz green with the large depression in the center, but adds a twist on the template by angling the green like a redan and giving the player the run-up option with slope. The player is given numerous options here on this exceptional hole.

Hole #14: Par 4, 344 yards
This hole, in this writers mind, is the Strantz version of the Alps. The green is barely visible in the distance from the tee and there are two huge mounds flanking the clear opening to the green. Players must play to the center of the fairway or the view of the green may be blocked completely. The green does the player no favors being highly contoured, but a highly contoured green should be expected for a short hole like this.
From the tee, the player has a clear view of the task at hand. Depending on hole location, the player may want to favor the opposite side of the fairway a bit, but any shot hit too far off the center line will have the view of the green blocked.
The approach from 90-100 yards out. This shot was played to an aggressive yardage and is nearing the gap between the hills.

Hole #17: Par 5, 562 yards
Here the player will be given the chance to pick up one, possibly two shots if he is capable of hitting the necessary shots. The creek running down the right side of the fairway dictates all play. If the player has the guts and hits down the right side off the tee, then going for the green in two may be a possibility, but he will be required to play his shot over the trees or hit a huge fade. The conservative play will be out to the left and will not give the player a chance at going for the green in all likelihood, though the angle is better from the left, the distance makes it less then appetizing. From the landing area, the player will once again have to contend with the bunker should he want to go at the green in two. Players laying up are given a generous landing area. The green is not very deep, but quite wide.
The creek is not highly visible in the image, the it runs the entire length of the hole, pressed hard against the fairway. A play towards the bunkers will give the player a conservative line off the tee and an outside chance of going for the green in two.
From the right-center of the fairway about 275 yards off the tee, the green is not visible to the player. In order to go for the green in two, the player would either have to start his shot over the pond, aiming at the trees in the distance, or take his shot high over the center tall tree in the foreground. Otherwise, the player should aim for the bunkers in the distance and lay-up.
A rather simple shot awaits the player laying up, though it does have to be played across the creek.


Hole #18: Par 4, 463 yards
From the tee the player can either try to carry the two bunkers on the right or play to the huge open fairway on the left. In many ways, the less aggressive play is, in this case, preferred, as playing over the bunkers will yeild limited rewards. The shot to the green is a difficult one having to go across the water all the way to a green that is not very deep.
From the tee, the best play will take the player to the left of the twin bunkers. This opens up the fairway.
There are no opportunities to miss herre. Short, long or right will all find the water. This is likely not the shot any player wants after a long day with a few dollars on the line.
Overall, this course is very, very good. With a little more money to spend on conditioning, the course could be exceptional. But there is great variety here and the player will certainly need to be able to shape the ball to score well. In general, this course seems to be underrated in the world of golf. Not even top 20 in the state of Virgnina according to Golf Digest? Hardly. 7 out of 10.